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 Post subject: Politics
PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:01 am 
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With Elections coming this next year, I think it would be great to have some polical discussions. Who is elected could very well effect our lives for decades to come.


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Ok Deloy, How do you want to get this started? I know of at least one Democrat that may be watching this forum.


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Well, as far as politics go, I was rooting for Romney or Huckabee. But since they're both gone, I guess I'm technically stuck with McCain. To be quite honest, I don't really mind if a democrat takes the White House, as long as it's not Hillary :roll:


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Forget the Democrats Vote for the oldest so we won't have to pay them so much retirement non of them are worth anything anyway. With McCain who is 70 his retirement should not be to long. :P

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If you plan to buy a gun you have a few months left. Better hurry!! Remember the Hill-Bill Clinton bans we had before.


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Especially those mean lookng Assault weapons and high capacity clips. Those will be the first to go so you better stock up on them.


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 Post subject: Libertarian Wackos
PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 1:36 pm 
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Don't forget the one Libertarian Wacko in the group...

Those of you who may know Bob Barr may be interested to know he has been the Libertarian Party Chairman for the last several years now and is making a bid for the LP Presidential candidate. The other Libertarian I like is Wayne Allyn Root who declares WAR on everything.

http://www.lp.org/libertydecides/

The Constitution Party has just wrapped up their convention a couple weeks ago as well, where my favorite Alan Keyes was beat by Baldwin. The interesting thing there for me is that a very good friend of mine, Scott Bradley from Hyde Park, has been recruited as his VP candidate. So there will be a Utahn on the presidential ballot this year! (Theres a chance Scott may back out, but he seems pretty keen on it so far)

http://www.constitutionparty.com/news.php?aid=746


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 Post subject: Re: Politics
PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:47 am 
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Here's a fun one you might come down on one side or the other over and applies to this community:

by James W. Harris

"Mad Bureaucrat" Disease: USDA Won't Allow 100% Testing of U.S. Cattle

The U.S. Dept. of Agriculture (USDA) has gone to federal court to prevent a
meatpacking company from testing, at its own expense, all its cattle for Mad
Cow Disease. And a federal appeals court has backed the USDA.

Currently the USDA tests about 1% of cattle for Mad Cow Disease. The disease is
extremely rare -- only three infected cattle have been discovered in the U.S,
and there is no known case of a human contracting the disease from U.S.
cattle.

Still, Creekstone Farms, a small meatpacking company, wants to test 100% of the
cattle they process. The company, not taxpayers, would pay for the tests.

Creekstone Farms feels some consumers would be willing to pay extra for the
knowledge that all its meat is tested -- especially customers in Asian
countries, where concern about the disease is higher. Creekstone says it has
lost millions of dollars in foreign sales since the first case of Mad Cow
disease was found in U.S. cattle in 2003.

Please note, Creekstone Farms is not making false claims about the safety of
their competitors' beef. They are merely offering consumers the choice of 100%
testing. Consumers would be free to choose which they prefer.

But the USDA doesn't like that. It fears Creekstone Farms' competitors --
politically-connected big meatpacking companies -- may feel pressure from
consumers to increase their testing, which could raise the price of beef (or
cut into their profits).

As the small-government lobbying group Downsize DC notes, by outlawing
Creekstone Farm's plan, the USDA is:

* Preventing a private business from voluntarily making its product safer than
government standards -- in order to protect Big Business.
* Preventing a safer product from entering the market.
* Denying Americans the opportunity to decide for themselves, in the alleged
"land of the free."
* Hurting American foreign trade.

Downsize DC aptly calls this: "Mad Bureaucrat Disease: insane regulations that
sacrifice freedom and the public good for the interests of a few powerful
corporate lobbyists."

Unfortunately, no one is protecting U.S. consumers from that widespread and
destructive malady.

(Source: Downsize DC
http://www.downsizedc.org/blog/mad+cow+or+mad+bureaucrat
USA Today
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/food/2008-08-29-mad-cow-testing_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip
Kansas City Star
http://www.kansascity.com/business/story/773941.html )


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 Post subject: Re: Politics
PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 8:45 pm 
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Interesting tidbit but you know that meatpacker will collect that cost somehow from the Ranchers... But I was under the impression that the successfull Ranchers in Grouse Creek made more $$$ from selling the Hay/Alfalfa that they grow rather than the cattle ?

It is my personal opinion that Obama does support radical Islamic Extremists and because of his stance for Gun Control and his open statements to ban all Handguns and Semi-automatic weapons... I will be voting for McCain. He is the lesser of the two evils and if I don't vote.... this old gal cannot Bitch about the next President.


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